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This online chess streaming American kid, HaydenCoolBoi, was algorithmed into my YouTube feed and I thought that it was quite funny, if a little juvenile :)

Might be a good insight though into how a chess player thinks as he narrates his games as he's playing them..

It's just a (90 minute) livestream so perhaps only for the hardcore chess fans, like Mowl Mowl -

 
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Mowl Mowl has been asking me how he can improve his chess at his age. Well, my answer is that anyone can improve their chess at any age but it is a young person's game.. if you want to get to the top, which isn't going to happen so don't worry about it.

In fact, despite there being hundreds of millions of people (excluding roc_abilly roc_abilly) who know how to play chess in the world, they say that only about the top thirty can make a good living from it in competition. And if you're not a GM by your (early) teens then you can fugeddaboudit

This young China girl (only 8 years old) playing with Alessia Santeramo has some potential :), watch -

 
Sadly the video has not had an immediate positive impact on the Mowl Mowl - "It's all double Dutch to me Jambo", he said.

I think it contains a few, as they say, teachable moments. I'll break them up into bite-sized chunks with timestamps on the video (just press play) so as Mowl might be better able to absorb it.

We'll start here -



So Alessia asks if she wants to take the a2 pawn, a free cheese macaroni (she's Italian) as she calls it. But her young opponent is having none of it, giving the correct reason -

She says: "Because then you go b twee" (she means b three she may have a slight speech impediment) and that of course is right. After Bxa2 and then b3 her bishop will be trapped. The white rook sliding over to attack it and the bishop has nowhere to go, well, the b3 pawn can be captured but that's a bishop for two pawns, which is a bad deal.

In fact, the a2 pawn in this instance is what's called a poisoned pawn.

A lot of noobs would've fallen for it but not our Chinagirl.

(more to follow)..
 
Poker Interlude

Mowl Mowl, could you make this laydown? 🤔


Haha.. Hellmuth must've been sick when Polk turned over his hand.

Don't forget, he (Hellmuth) massively overbet the pot and then Polk, with the second nuts (second best possible hand) figures that he's dead and Hellmuth doesn't make a cent more with his raise/overbet.

And he (Polk) was of course dead, he couldn't possibly win the hand with two more cards to come and you see that reflected in the onscreen percentages, he's 0%.

But Hellmuth is only 87%, why not 100%? 🤔

Perhaps roc_abilly roc_abilly would like to throw his hat in the ring here, I know that he likes talking about probability (but like Wendy I don't think he really knows what it is)
 
Haha.. Hellmuth must've been sick when Polk turned over his hand.

Don't forget, he (Hellmuth) massively overbet the pot and then Polk, with the second nuts (second best possible hand) figures that he's dead and Hellmuth doesn't make a cent more with his raise/overbet.
And he (Polk) was of course dead, he couldn't possibly win the hand with two more cards to come and you see that reflected in the onscreen percentages, he's 0%.
But Hellmuth is only 87%, why not 100%? 🤔
No? Nothing from our occasional daytripper, roc_abilly roc_abilly?

Hellmuth isn't a lock because of the chops (split pots)

Obviously regardless of whether the players are all-in on the flop.. the hand plays out, it is gambling..

Either of the remaining two cards can come a queen for a split pot

Perhaps roc_abilly roc_abilly would like to throw his hat in the ring here, I know that he likes talking about probability (but like Wendy I don't think he really knows what it is)
All good poker players use probability in their decisions, and (pot) odds. But in a game of incomplete information, probability in poker isn't actually real (in a sense)
 
Well it's hardly surprising that you find something that you know nothing about boring

But c'mon Wen.. eh 'billy, we're talking about probability here, you said that you know something about that

So why was Hellmuth 87% to win? Okay, I told you why (because of the split pot) but how was the 87% figure arrived at, any ideas, no?
 
Well it's hardly surprising that you find something that you know nothing about boring

But c'mon Wen.. eh 'billy, we're talking about probability here, you said that you know something about that
So why was Hellmuth 87% to win? Okay, I told you why (because of the split pot) but how was the 87% figure arrived at, any ideas, no?
Obviously serial spoofer roc_abilly roc_abilly is not even going to make an attempt at this so let me walk you through it.

First of all, the onscreen probability will probably (almost certainly) have been calculated based on all seen cards, so that's 3 on the flop and 2 for each player for a total of 7.

Reminder: Polk needs a queen for a split pot, 1 of which is in Hellmuth's hand leaving a remainder of 3 of the 45 unseen cards.

So what are the odds that the next card (turn) will be a queen, that's pretty easy right, 3/45 = 0.067 = (x100) 6.7%

And then the card after that (river) if the turn wasn't a queen, 3/44 = 0.068 = 6.8%

But either card can come a queen so what do we do, do we add the percentages, do we multiply? No, not quite.

We calculate it (the probability of a split pot) as:

0.067 + (0.068 * (1 – 0.067))

(1 being the number Wendy doesn't understand in probability because it's "too small" 😆)

= 0.13 or 13%

(for Mowl Mowl's benefit, 100 - 13 = 87)
 
No? Nothing from our occasional daytripper, roc_abilly roc_abilly?

Hellmuth isn't a lock because of the chops (split pots)

Obviously regardless of whether the players are all-in on the flop.. the hand plays out, it is gambling..

Either of the remaining two cards can come a queen for a split pot


All good poker players use probability in their decisions, and (pot) odds. But in a game of incomplete information, probability in poker isn't actually real (in a sense)
Obviously serial spoofer roc_abilly roc_abilly is not even going to make an attempt at this so let me walk you through it.

First of all, the onscreen probability will probably (almost certainly) have been calculated based on all seen cards, so that's 3 on the flop and 2 for each player for a total of 7.

Reminder: Polk needs a queen for a split pot, 1 of which is in Hellmuth's hand leaving a remainder of 3 of the 45 unseen cards.

So what are the odds that the next card (turn) will be a queen, that's pretty easy right, 3/45 = 0.067 = (x100) 6.7%

And then the card after that (river) if the turn wasn't a queen, 3/44 = 0.068 = 6.8%

But either card can come a queen so what do we do, do we add the percentages, do we multiply? No, not quite.

We calculate it (the probability of a split pot) as:

0.067 + (0.068 * (1 – 0.067))

(1 being the number Wendy doesn't understand in probability because it's "too small" 😆)

= 0.13 or 13%

(for Mowl Mowl's benefit, 100 - 13 = 87)
What I meant in saying that probability isn't real (in a sense) in poker (a game of incomplete information) is that there could've been zero queens left in the deck, other players in the hand could have folded them, heck, the burn card before the flop could've been the case queen, you just don't know. However, that's how we use probability in poker regardlessly.

(Normal service (chess) will resume shortly)..
 
... a game of incomplete information...
Life is a game of incomplete information, Jambo.

If you had to sum up the lesson that forum users have been trying unsuccuessfully to hammer into your thick head, that might be it.

And probability concepts are fuck all use to you in that.

(I recall I tried to explain why to you before, but obviously created a deadlock and race conditions in your over simple CPU based tiny brain).
 
Life is a game of incomplete information, Jambo.
Wow. Profound

If you had to sum up the lesson that forum users have been trying unsuccuessfully to hammer into your thick head, that might be it.
You're in full fantasy mode now

And probability concepts are fuck all use to you in that.
What would you know about that

In fact, you seem to be a remarkably untalented (presumed) man. Can you play an instrument even?

(I recall I tried to explain why to you before, but obviously created a deadlock and race conditions in your over simple CPU based tiny brain).
 
What would you know about that
I recall I did explain to you before.

Your cards are theoretically 100% knowable in detail.

The real world is unknowable in detail.

I recall I may have been pointing out to you before (with reference to your replacement theory and other white supremacist "models" of the world) that predictions are always dogmatic (though the dogma can be modified in the light of further evidence).

Let's say you assert based on observation (counting) that the next card to be turned up will be a king with probability 0.3, a queen with probability 0.2, and the rest of the cards combined, probability 0.5.

What I was trying to explain to you was that is a shorthand version of saying "... I predict (with certainty) that the value of a variable called the probability of a king being turned up equals 0.3, and the value of a corresponding variable for the queen being turned up equals 0.2, and the value of another corresponding variable for the rest of the cards being turned up equals 0.5.

I was trying to get across to you that you are not predicting events, but rather you are predicting certain abstract entities called the probabilities of events, which can be variously interpreted, for example, in the present case, as an assertion that if you were to repeat the turning up of cards over and over say a few hundred times, 30% of the time the occurrence would be a king, and so on for the three events we outlined - but there could be no other events.

Thus it follows that you do not make predictions about the real world, which is unknowable in detail.

Rather you make predictions about some simplified abstraction from the real world - of which you can become certain (the probability model is, of course, an abstraction of this kind).

And your computer-like approach to the world appears to be incapable of making this distinction.

I think that is why you put so much faith in these simplified abstractions of the real world, models as such, and take them literally.

It gives you certainty. A dumb machine-like certainty. A delusional certainty.

Whereas if you were able to acknowledge the world as it really is, you would need to adopt a strategy of living better able to handle it.

Now, I'm serious. You know what the best strategy discovered so far, is to best deal with the world as it really is?

Hint, it's the exact opposite to the strategy you semi literate chimps on the likes of arsefields or Stormfront adopt to deal with the world.

What is it, and why might it work in light of what I have just explained to you?
 
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