Are ye on the roight or the left, wha'?

[roc_abilly]

Jambo in a padded cell.

He'd still emerge when his time was up in solitary with black eyes and bruises all over himself.

He just can't help himself.

I gather he's currently administering a severe flailing to himself as self punishment, with this latest self-banning idea of his. "A cunning plan, Baldrick...".

 

[Mowl]

He suffers from the delusion that these fora are sunk without him.

Actually - he suffers from so many delusions it hardly matters pointing any one delusion out.

 

[Electricity]

Well in the mid-twentieth century, Ireland had the highest rate of asylum residency (per 100,000) in the world. Fact.

And there are a fair few posting across these Irish political discussion fora would have ended up there, in the old days. Exhibit A, our childish little white supremacist parroting moron above.

So r u going to tell us why you don't go by the actual definition instead of your made-up one?

Definition of WHITE SUPREMACIST

a person who believes that the white race is inherently superior to other races and that white people should have control over people of other races… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[Mowl]

So r u going to tell us why you don't go by the actual definition instead of your made-up one?

Definition of WHITE SUPREMACIST

a person who believes that the white race is inherently superior to other races and that white people should have control over people of other races… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

Poor Jambo: he's fallen so far he's ended up next to Saul/Coal Buckett with the emoticons for added effect.

Time to lay down and die, Jambo - your best days are behind you.

Loser.

 

[roc_abilly]

So r u going to tell us why you don't go by the actual definition instead of your made-up one?

Definition of WHITE SUPREMACIST

a person who believes that the white race is inherently superior to other races and that white people should have control over people of other races… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

So you're sticking to your stupid "Bugs" script are you.

14 YOU ask the questions. If you don't get a reply keep asking them - it means your opponent is embarrassed and is trying to get off the subject. If they demand you answer questions say "WE ask the questions, because YOU support/justify genocide of MY people!"

You expect others to ignore that the people you are obviously parotting were self-described "Klansmen", then self described "white supremacists", to finally become self-described “racial realists” in their recent rebranding?

You think we should ignore what you write on these boards? For example you posted an "infographic" that drew on the type of Nazi "race science" that classified like insects whole blocks of humanity using "averages" of measurements?

You tried to defend it for a while, then you just quietly deleted the whole infographic. You sad bastard.

Or you also posted this stupid meme:

So, as I said, why should anyone play your game Jambo, play along with your "Bugster script" - if they can see what's right in front of their nose, walking and talking like the proverbial duck, as I said?

And the above are only from this week. I've been listening to you for longer Jambo. So I know what you are. And I don't care what you wish to rebrand yourself. Now as Mowl would say, go wash your butt.

 

[roc_abilly]

Nearly time for my tea, but no. 13 in that bugster script caught my eye earlier.

13 Think before you talk. Talking about committing violence is a no-go. No talking about genocide tribunals because it makes us look dangerous...

Well Jambo usually manages to adhere fairly well to that little bit of advice. But remember he completely forgot himself on that private thread on Arsefields, when they were talking about the type of "nationalist" site they were going to have?

If you want to have a nationalist site then you should be prepared to be an outlaw.. because nationalism is HIGHLY illegal... You want nationalism? Well then you better be prepared to take up a gu.. eh, sorry, don't want to say anything illegal... That's it, it's Game Over. I have no hope left. But if you want.. You better stop being scared about fucking talking about it.. because you're a racist... And every (subversive) geebag, who ever used that term (I know literally dozens on Irish political fora) will, when the glorious time comes, be put up against a wall and held accountable. May God have mercy...

Good man, Jambo. What are you going to write on your gu.. ?

 

[Lumpy Von Talbot]

'This machine kills potatoes'.

 

[Electricity]

I'll ask you again roc_abilly, why are you refusing to go by the actual definition of white supremacist? By definition, I am not one, and you can't show that I am.

And to be clear, because your accusation is reputationally damaging and false.. You are literally guilty of defaming me, by definition.

 

[Lumpy Von Talbot]

You would need to have a good name to defame, Mongonazi.

 

[roc_abilly]

Ah the old threats to sue me again.

Remember last time, when I demonstrated the truth of everything I had said on the thread "I, Jambo".

I, Jambo

For readers looking in, we had some interesting and rather dramatic developments last night that I suggest we draw on to further investigate the phenomenon that is "Jambo". In essence, we discovered a severe dissociation between the propaganda Jambo tries to perpetuate, and his claimed personal...

web.archive.org

It's not defamation if it's true, Jambo.

And none of your whining about Gdpr or threats to sue is ever going to change that.

Now wash your butt. (© The Mowl).

 

[Electricity]

Ah the old threats to sue me again.

Remember last time, when I demonstrated the truth of everything I had said on the thread "I, Jambo".

I, Jambo

For readers looking in, we had some interesting and rather dramatic developments last night that I suggest we draw on to further investigate the phenomenon that is "Jambo". In essence, we discovered a severe dissociation between the propaganda Jambo tries to perpetuate, and his claimed personal...

web.archive.org

It's not defamation if it's true, Jambo.

It's not. And you can't show that is

And none of your whining about Gdpr or threats to sue is ever going to change that.

Now wash your butt.

Get some self-respect. Mowl is already passed out, he won't be joining you this evening

You would need to have a good name to defame, Mongonazi.

lol Lump claiming that someone can't be defamed by defaming them

 

[roc_abilly]

It's not. And you can't show that is

It is. And I have amply demonstrated it. I'll have a chat with David over the next few days and see if we can't organise a poll or something to confirm I have demonstrated it beyond all reasonable doubt to the Jury up in the peanut gallery of these fora.

 

[Electricity]

It is.

No it isn't, and you can't show that it is, by the definition. If you can't show that you're accusation is true - which you can't, then you have defamed me. Nothing could be clearer

And I have amply demonstrated it. I'll have a chat with David over the next few days and see if we can't organise a poll or something to confirm I have demonstrated it beyond all reasonable doubt to the Jury up in the peanut gallery of these fora.

 

[roc_abilly]

We've been through all this before you stupid little child, and you didn't just get you arse handed to you, you had it reamed out to the point of prolapse.

You cannot not understand how many of your stupid bigoted posts could be presented in evidence, your choice of what you repost, your stupid memes and catchphrases.

Of course any jury in the world would agree that here was someone posting white supremacist ideology and therefore would be fairly described as a white supremacist.

And if after the court case you went down to the garda station, and went through some of those manifestos of white supremacist shooters, and showed them how much of what you post mirrored those manifestos, they'd take you away for good.

So you're not dealing with some Saul or Myles type in the real world, Jambo, you're dealing with people who see through you and typically don't like what they see.

The truth is not defamation.

 

[Electricity]

We've been through all this before you stupid little child, and you didn't just get you arse handed to you, you had it reamed out to the point of prolapse.

You cannot not understand how many of your stupid bigoted posts could be presented in evidence, your choice of what you repost, your stupid memes and catchphrases.

Of course any jury in the world would agree that here was someone posting white supremacist ideology and therefore would be fairly described as a white supremacist.

And if after the court case you went down to the garda station, and went through some of those manifestos of white supremacist shooters, and showed them how much of what you post mirrored those manifestos, they'd take you away for good.

So you're not dealing with some Saul or Myles type in the real world, Jambo, you're dealing with people who see through you and typically don't like what they see.

The truth is not defamation.

But you're not telling the truth. I am not a white supremacist - by the definition and you can't show that I am

 

[Lumpy Von Talbot]

Doesn't have to. Judging by your hair brained threats you'd have to show you'd been defamed. Best of luck with that. I hear Ammi 'The Omen' Burke is free and is doing a special offer on courtroom chanting this month.

Best of luck with that.

 

[roc_abilly]

I have already amply shown it to be true. By any meaningful metric or interpretation or any measure you like.

But white supremacism is dogma. You can't argue with a dogmatist.

But let's progress the discussion another step.

One characteristic of dogma is of course it is deliberately made immune to criticism. Its tenets are easily reoriented and reinterpreted when criticism hits. It is evasive.

In this case when criticism of one interpretation of "supremacism" precluded the development of the movement, of making their hatred acceptable, relatively, according to the general mood of the times. Of course the movement tries to gather under its flag the most people it can, so it must try to appear as palatable as it can to continue its growth.

Thus the rebranding to "white nationalists" and then, "racially realist", and all the nonsense surrounding that.

Anyway, moving on, also note that dogma is usually highly indicative of a cult. In this regard notice Jambo's white supremacist movement is:

• Essentially apocalyptic ("replacement" etc.).
• It promises a restoration of erstwhile culture (Christian, white European etc.).
• It has 'prophets' and 'priests' (its "influencers" like Morgoth, Woods, Collett etc.).
• Its prophets and priests promise their acolytes that their world will once again make sense to them.
• Its prophets and priests make demands on their followers, giving them direction and purpose, they have to actively participate.
• It recruits and proselytizes.
• It not only recruits and proselytize, it generates an opposition. (e.g. "anti-whites", Jews, etc. It generates opposition because the state of feeling and the hostility is valuable to it.)
• It excludes ("anti-whites", "normies", "shitlibs", "faggots", and so on.)
• Its new entrants usually go though a ritual scepticism - they're encouraged to profess scepticism and have this overcome.
• It is based on a kind of magical thinking.
• It inspires a high degree of devotion in its acolytes (see Jambo)

And more. Enough here to show it is obviously a cult. So, why would I argue on here with a member of a cult on his own terms?

As I said before, sue me if you like, and I'll argue it in front of people who are outside the cult.

 

[Mowl]

But you're not telling the truth. I am not a white supremacist - by the definition and you can't show that I am

You're not really anything, Jambo - and if you're to be judged on your actions rather than your 'beliefs' - then you're just another dole-sponger with time on your hands and a petty little lit of names of people who disagree with you.

Had you been of adult age in the second world war, you'd have been sent in with the first line of infantry men - because you're entirely expendable and of little other use or function. Cannon fodder.

 

[Electricity]

I have already amply shown it to be true. By any meaningful metric or interpretation or any measure you like.

You haven't shown it to be true - by the definition. Is that why you're ignoring it (the definition)?

But white supremacism is dogma. You can't argue with a dogmatist.

But let's progress the discussion another step.

One characteristic of dogma is of course it is deliberately made immune to criticism. Its tenets are easily reoriented and reinterpreted when criticism hits. It is evasive.

In this case when criticism of one interpretation of "supremacism" precluded the development of the movement, of making their hatred acceptable, relatively, according to the general mood of the times. Of course the movement tries to gather under its flag the most people it can, so it must try to appear as palatable as it can to continue its growth.

Thus the rebranding to "white nationalists" and then, "racially realist", and all the nonsense surrounding that.

lol There is no "rebranding", I am a white nationalist and a race realist, but not a white supremacist. I'm aware (and have said many times) that your mob conflate the two (nationalist and supremacist) as well as other dishonesty such as eh, rebranding replacement (an empirical, observable fact) as replacement theory (a conspiracy theory).

Anyway, moving on, also note that dogma is usually highly indicative of a cult. In this regard notice Jambo's white supremacist movement is:

• Essentially apocalyptic ("replacement" etc.).
• It promises a restoration of erstwhile culture (Christian, white European etc.).
• It has 'prophets' and 'priests' (its "influencers" like Morgoth, Woods, Collett etc.).
• Its prophets and priests promise their acolytes that their world will once again make sense to them.
• Its prophets and priests make demands on their followers, giving them direction and purpose, they have to actively participate.
• It recruits and proselytizes.
• It not only recruits and proselytize, it generates an opposition. (e.g. "anti-whites", Jews, etc. It generates opposition because the state of feeling and the hostility is valuable to it.)
• It excludes ("anti-whites", "normies", "shitlibs", "faggots", and so on.)
• Its new entrants usually go though a ritual scepticism - they're encouraged to profess scepticism and have this overcome.
• It is based on a kind of magical thinking.
• It inspires a high degree of devotion in its acolytes (see Jambo)

And more. Enough here to show it is obviously a cult. So, why would I argue on here with a member of a cult on his own terms?

As I said before, sue me if you like, and I'll argue it in front of people who are outside the cult.

 

[Mowl]

I am a white nationalist and a race realist, but not a white supremacist.

You still have: nothing.