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[Electricity]

I'm a bit confused reading about it though. When Woods says he caught this woman "trying to disrupt the ADL files Twitter space", wtf does that mean? I can't work it out, I can't find a clear explanation of what it was she was actually doing?

Where did you read that? It doesn't seem to appear in the fake news media article you posted above.

I'll try to answer as best as I can anyway..

If someone joined the Twitter space (which was titled: ADL files) lying about not knowing who the ADL are and bleating about 'rising antisemitism', why wouldn't they be there to disrupt?

 

[roc_abilly]

Where did you read that?

https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1698867716247982381

If someone joined the Twitter space (which was titled: ADL files) lying about not knowing who the ADL are and bleating about 'rising antisemitism', why wouldn't they be there to disrupt?

Is there a space titled 'Adl files'? Where is it? What is it? What does the name of the space mean? Who is in that space? Is a 'twitter space' like one of these threads on this forum, just with audio?

 

[Electricity]

https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1698867716247982381

You're reading Keef's Twitter, r u doing research?

Is there a space titled 'Adl files'? Where is it? What is it? What does the name of the space mean? Who is in that space? Is a 'twitter space' like one of these threads on this forum, just with audio?

I'm not familiar with Twitter space myself but I can google ("Twitter space" in my previous post is a link)

If you actually played the short clip in the tweet (some "researcher" eh ) you can see that the space is identifiable by "ADL files"

 

[Mowl]

Nobody follows your links, bar twats like Saul Bucket and Hopeless O'Reilly.

You should head over and join your man Plonker with his eighty-seven tweets posted every fucking day.

 

[Electricity]

Nobody follows your links, bar twats like Saul Bucket and Hopeless O'Reilly.

You should head over and join your man Plonker with his eighty-seven tweets posted every fucking day.

I would agree with you that Plonker posts too many tweets, you realise that I've complained about this before (a poster posting too many tweets)?

I just don't think that the solution is to ban embedding

 

[Electricity]

What would you change about the legislation?

Bump

So we see that roc_abilly has been back since I asked the question above (if only to ask me for advice on his "research" and to post a question mark) but he didn't answer that question.

This is an example of roc's (infamous) mealy-mouthedness and of course, I worded the question correctly.

If anyone had just fallen off the turnip truck or arrived from outer space they would be forgiven for thinking that roc is against hate speech (so-called) legislation but of course he isn't. roc is an anti-free speech absolutist (for the same reason his pals in the ADL are)

 

[Electricity]

Greenblatt strikes back! (on fake news media) -

 

[roc_abilly]

Roc's mealy-mouthedness...

Rather what you mean by mealy-mouthedness is that I don't play to the slogans of your cult. I express my own thoughts, in my own way, and you don't like that. I.e. You need people to play within the "rules" of the slogans circumscribed by your cult.

Whereas I have made my position clear on many occasions.

Such as this post here where I dress down your old crush, Parlon (before he offended you saying something the cult did not approve of). A clarifying snippet from that post:

"... No doubt this legislation is drafted stupidly, with the usual incompetence and without any eye to the larger issues, and in alliance with the massive corporates who comprise a large part of the problem in terms of certain elements of the design of their "social" platforms, and the elements in the human psyche they are designed towards.

But at least it's a start, a recognition of the problem..."

Or here's another post I just found on p.ie where I state my views, and Mowl gets an honourable mention, even.

Seems straight-forward enough to me. I've also expressed the same views on here. The problem is just that you're a thick bastard when it comes to anything outside of your memes.

 

[roc_abilly]

... the space is identifiable by "ADL files"

Did they call it that playing on the TV show the "X-files" (which was about peoples' darkest fears of government conspiracies and monsters hiding in plain sight and fear of the unknown, and government advances in science and so on)?

Sad bastards. These "Twitter spaces" seem to be actually the exact same in effect as threads on these Irish political fora, except you use live audio.

Oh and look what we find on this "thread" - the same group of the usual suspects, the same usual type of white supremacists and antisemites.

Bunch of cretins. I suspect Musk is going to regret that ill-considered "wow" that he gave to your crush, Woods.

 

[roc_abilly]

Rather what you mean by mealy-mouthedness is that I don't play to the slogans of your cult. I express my own thoughts, in my own way, and you don't like that. I.e. You need people to play within the "rules" of the slogans circumscribed by your cult.

Whereas I have made my position clear on many occasions.

Such as this post here where I dress down your old crush, Parlon (before he offended you saying something the cult did not approve of). A clarifying snippet from that post:

"... No doubt this legislation is drafted stupidly, with the usual incompetence and without any eye to the larger issues, and in alliance with the massive corporates who comprise a large part of the problem in terms of certain elements of the design of their "social" platforms, and the elements in the human psyche they are designed towards.

But at least it's a start, a recognition of the problem..."

Or here's another post I just found on p.ie where I state my views, and Mowl gets an honourable mention, even.

Seems straight-forward enough to me. I've also expressed the same views on here. The problem is just that you're a thick bastard when it comes to anything outside of your memes.

Actually I directly addressed this very question with Jambo on this very thread less than a week ago.

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Responding in such a childish manner would be fine, not good, but fine - If you didn't do it all the time Spaghetti Bolognese. Bowl. Baby hi-chair. Splash. lol Shut up Mowl. I'm here to amuse you? Btw, did you ever read Dawkins' book that was gifted to you 🤔 Yes, yes I did. I...

islepoli.com

"... I have no faith in the people who inhabit our legislative bodies. Yes, I think there is a need to legislatively or otherwise address the kind of base tendencies amplified by ICT technology that you can observe on websites like politicalirish or Arsefields, clearly they are toxic for wider society.

But is the current legislation fit for purpose? That is another question. Honestly, it may be destructive to actual free speech, and even in a manner provide grist to the mill of hate speech.

So this legal development is exactly what is needed, to help have these type of questions worked fully out..."

 

[Mowl]

I would agree with you that Plonker posts too many tweets, you realise that I've complained about this before (a poster posting too many tweets)?

I just don't think that the solution is to ban embedding

One solution might be to disallow posting tweets or links without any added commentary from the individual posting them.

A site that operates on the basis of re-posting published material from elsewhere in enormous amounts is just a conduit for the original site the materials came from. It serves no purpose whatsoever. Like your stupid habit of posting everything your trio of doom say on any given day. It simply bores people. If I wnated to know what's going on on X/Twitter/telegram, then I'd go to the source.

Posting links and sitting back smugly as though you just scored a goal with a throw-in is basically uninspired and highly unoriginal.

When we had embedding for those kind of sites - you were 100% guilty of dumping whatever Collect/Wuss/Margarine had to say onto this site. It's annoying, pointless, dumb, and fucking dull. If you have a point to make, make it yourself. Don't be using some third party nobodies to make it for you.

So we see that roc_abilly has been back since I asked the question above (if only to ask me for advice on his "research" and to post a question mark) but he didn't answer that question.

You're hardly in any position to criticize anyone else for avoiding answering clear questions with clear answer, now are you?

You're basically a muppet for your Big Three telegrammers.

This is an example of roc's (infamous) mealy-mouthedness and of course, I worded the question correctly.

You're so full of shit you could be mistaken for an abandoned portaloo.

If anyone had just fallen off the turnip truck or arrived from outer space they would be forgiven for thinking that roc is against hate speech (so-called) legislation but of course he isn't. roc is an anti-free speech absolutist (for the same reason his pals in the ADL are)

Your proclamations on other people are at best laughable.

You're nothing but a middle-man for your 'male heroes' in the same manner
as your being blind and deaf about Oasis being a
trite second hand busking group.

this post here

Great post.

Actually I directly addressed this very question with Jambo on this very thread less than a week ago.

That's exactly how Jambo plays his little games: he makes accusations about things not happening in the way he wants them to weeks after the fact. Yet if you ask him what the fuck he's on about he just posts more of the same. As a poster, he's fucking useless. As a representative of his Big Three's daily witterings, he's a lapdog. A pussy. The single most unoriginal poster I ever came across. He has fuck all of his own creation or thought to impart.

 

[Mowl]

Fresh cream pies are dead and gone, they're with O'Leary - in the grave.

 

[Electricity]

Rather what you mean by mealy-mouthedness is that I don't play to the slogans of your cult.

No

I express my own thoughts, in my own way, and you don't like that. I.e. You need people to play within the "rules" of the slogans circumscribed by your cult.

When you express your own thoughts in your own way you're particularly retarded, but a lot of it is just a rehash of the (lazy, dishonest) crap you read in the fake news media, ADL etc.

Whereas I have made my position clear on many occasions.

Such as this post here where I dress down your old crush, Parlon (before he offended you saying something the cult did not approve of).

Parlon nailed you with that eh, infographic. You're anti-free speech but you pretend not to be, dressing it up in jargon from your cult such as hate speech, "misuse of free speech" and so on

A clarifying snippet from that post:

"... No doubt this legislation is drafted stupidly, with the usual incompetence and without any eye to the larger issues, and in alliance with the massive corporates who comprise a large part of the problem in terms of certain elements of the design of their "social" platforms, and the elements in the human psyche they are designed towards.

But at least it's a start, a recognition of the problem..."

Or here's another post I just found on p.ie where I state my views, and Mowl gets an honourable mention, even.

Seems straight-forward enough to me. I've also expressed the same views on here. The problem is just that you're a thick bastard when it comes to anything outside of your memes.

 

[Electricity]

Did they call it that playing on the TV show the "X-files" (which was about peoples' darkest fears of government conspiracies and monsters hiding in plain sight and fear of the unknown, and government advances in science and so on)?

I don't care what they called it

Sad bastards. These "Twitter spaces" seem to be actually the exact same in effect as threads on these Irish political fora, except you use live audio.

..

Oh and look what we find on this "thread" - the same group of the usual suspects, the same usual type of white supremacists and antisemites.

Bunch of cretins. I suspect Musk is going to regret that ill-considered "wow" that he gave to your crush, Woods.

 

[Electricity]

Actually I directly addressed this very question with Jambo on this very thread less than a week ago.

🔥🤬General Chat Thread

Responding in such a childish manner would be fine, not good, but fine - If you didn't do it all the time Spaghetti Bolognese. Bowl. Baby hi-chair. Splash. lol Shut up Mowl. I'm here to amuse you? Btw, did you ever read Dawkins' book that was gifted to you 🤔 Yes, yes I did. I...

islepoli.com

"... I have no faith in the people who inhabit our legislative bodies. Yes, I think there is a need to legislatively or otherwise address the kind of base tendencies amplified by ICT technology that you can observe on websites like politicalirish or Arsefields, clearly they are toxic for wider society.

But is the current legislation fit for purpose? That is another question. Honestly, it may be destructive to actual free speech, and even in a manner provide grist to the mill of hate speech.

So this legal development is exactly what is needed, to help have these type of questions worked fully out..."

You're in favour of 'hate speech' legislation. Why bother with the part about having a problem with the details of it, especially if you're not going to say what that is

 

[Electricity]

 

[Electricity]

One solution might be to disallow posting tweets or links without any added commentary from the individual posting them.

A site that operates on the basis of re-posting published material from elsewhere in enormous amounts is just a conduit for the original site the materials came from. It serves no purpose whatsoever. Like your stupid habit of posting everything your trio of doom say on any given day. It simply bores people. If I wnated to know what's going on on X/Twitter/telegram, then I'd go to the source.

Posting links and sitting back smugly as though you just scored a goal with a throw-in is basically uninspired and highly unoriginal.

When we had embedding for those kind of sites - you were 100% guilty of dumping whatever Collect/Wuss/Margarine had to say onto this site. It's annoying, pointless, dumb, and fucking dull. If you have a point to make, make it yourself. Don't be using some third party nobodies to make it for you.

Let's imagine for a second that the only thing one could post on social media was text, then your point might make the tiniest bit of sense

You're hardly in any position to criticize anyone else for avoiding answering clear questions with clear answer, now are you?

You don't answer questions (I really don't think you're capable), or you rely instead on your childish routine

You're basically a muppet for your Big Three telegrammers.



You're so full of shit you could be mistaken for an abandoned portaloo.



Your proclamations on other people are at best laughable.

You're nothing but a middle-man for your 'male heroes' in the same manner
as your being blind and deaf about Oasis being a
trite second hand busking group.



Great post.



That's exactly how Jambo plays his little games: he makes accusations about things not happening in the way he wants them to weeks after the fact. Yet if you ask him what the fuck he's on about he just posts more of the same. As a poster, he's fucking useless. As a representative of his Big Three's daily witterings, he's a lapdog. A pussy. The single most unoriginal poster I ever came across. He has fuck all of his own creation or thought to impart.

 

[roc_abilly]

You're in favour of 'hate speech' legislation. Why bother with the part about having a problem with the details of it, especially if you're not going to say what that is

I wouldn't describe it as details. The existing legislation may be purposed towards someone's feelings being hurt for example.

That does not matter, at least in in this debate.

What does matter is amplification of base mob sentiment, and the "logic" underlying that sentiment (and the repetition, memes and so on, used to reinforce that logic).

I would say that amplification is at root a technological matter. I.e. The technology is dangerous.

Personally, I would say there are sinister implications not widely recognised, beyond the obvious amplification of what is most base. I think for example that internet technology can actually assist in making people stupid, and hateful.

One obvious illustration is how our friend 'Hans' worked to sow seeds in significant numbers of cretinous willing acolytes, and indeed nurtured what he had sown over years. We clearly need to tackle that type of dynamic.

It comprises a dynamic that will ultimately destroy free speech. In fact this bill is an example of how that unfolds. I.e. The type of online cretin you find on Hans' websites are the precise cretins who have gradually made this bill absolutely necessary.

Society has to protect itself from that. It can't possibly just accede to giving carte blanche to that type of proselytising hate speech, fake news, terrorist propaganda, uninformed covid scepticism, ignorant climate scepticism, incitements, conspiracy theories, Holocaust denialism, transgender demonisation, LGB demonisation, US republican style pseudo-libertarianism, racist nationalism, antisemitism, etc.

Fact is there is a place in the human psyche that is absolutely base, stupid, ignorant, lying, and that impacts on our social environment, that in fact can only logically lead to the destruction of society.

What the technology is doing is amplifying this. So we need to deal with that.

The same way you don't hand the keys of a powerful car to a half wit child, you need to put in processes that deal in a similar way with the likes of Hans and Dan and other motivated exploiters of horrible cretins, like you and your A-team for example.

 

[Electricity]

I wouldn't describe it as details. The existing legislation may be purposed towards someone's feelings being hurt for example.

That does not matter, at least in in this debate.

What does matter is amplification of base mob sentiment, and the "logic" underlying that sentiment (and the repetition, memes and so on, used to reinforce that logic).

I would say that amplification is at root a technological matter. I.e. The technology is dangerous.

Personally, I would say there are sinister implications not widely recognised, beyond the obvious amplification of what is most base. I think for example that internet technology can actually assist in making people stupid, and hateful.

One obvious illustration is how our friend 'Hans' worked to sow seeds in significant numbers of cretinous willing acolytes, and indeed nurtured what he had sown over years. We clearly need to tackle that type of dynamic.

It comprises a dynamic that will ultimately destroy free speech. In fact this bill is an example of how that unfolds. I.e. The type of online cretin you find on Hans' websites are the precise cretins who have gradually made this bill absolutely necessary.

Society has to protect itself from that. It can't possibly just accede to giving carte blanche to that type of proselytising hate speech, fake news, terrorist propaganda, uninformed covid scepticism, ignorant climate scepticism, incitements, conspiracy theories, Holocaust denialism, transgender demonisation, LGB demonisation, US republican style pseudo-libertarianism, racist nationalism, antisemitism, etc.

Fact is there is a place in the human psyche that is absolutely base, stupid, ignorant, lying, and that impacts on our social environment, that in fact can only logically lead to the destruction of society.

What the technology is doing is amplifying this. So we need to deal with that.

The same way you don't hand the keys of a powerful car to a half wit child, you need to put in processes that deal in a similar way with the likes of Hans and Dan and other motivated exploiters of horrible cretins, like you and your A-team for example.

You call free speech - hate speech, misuse of free speech, misinformation, disinformation etc. and you want it banned.

And you do so with the sanctity of any zealot. And now, rightfully, we have campaigns like #BanTheADL, fight fire with fire - bout time. The right needs to toughen up, stop being 'liberal', and fight you scumbags on your own terms.

 

[Electricity]

Greenblatt strikes back! (on fake news media) -

lol Everyone hates the ADL (except for roc_abilly) -


#BanTheADL #BankruptTheADL #BlacksAndWhitesUnite