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Nationalism. Change from a VSO language to an SVO language and implications.

My opinion would be that it should be studied like Latin or Greek, or other dead languages in general.

The point is that spoken or written as it should be, it expresses a particularly Irish mindset, that is different to the Anglo Saxon mindset.

For there is an "otherness" in the language, in its grammar, in the expression of the relation of things. How people and everything in the world relate to each other, and to spirit.

Irish spoken as it should be is melody, in the manner of chord or a melodic line, you have metrics and versification, the old formulaic phrases.

There is a philosophical outlook implicit in the Irish language, an economic and social outlook too.

Language is after all your tool of thought. In Irish, it is the idioms, the grammar, the old phrases, the almost extinct and to our Anglo Saxon minds most difficult Tuiseal Gairmeach, Tuiseal Tabharthach and Tuiseal Ginideach, and all the declensions, that express the complex, subtle, nuances of the Gaelic mind as opposed to the English mind. You see the world through different lenses.

Yes, the Irish language is dead and few speak it. I don't personally think it should be revived, as it is worse just using Irish words within an increasing grammatically English structure, i.e. the recent way the language is becoming anglicised to make it "easier" for people to speak it. Including all these profusion of new words, pre-defining things for people bthrough an always expanding "vocabulary", like wikipedia or Jambo's metapedia - whereas old Irish had a very complex morphology with very few words. It was all about the relations between the few words that were used, expressed through a complex grammar. You had the tools to draw and colour in your own world, as you saw it.

So I think the Irish language is all we have left of Irish culture. So therefore I think anyone concerned to remain "Irish" therefore should put at least some effort into understanding the currents and elements found within the language that made us the people we are.

Think of the implication that there are some people out there who actually think it was our white skin that made us the people we are! What kind of education does someone need to understand that is not the case at all? What is the antidote to such base stupidity? Well the kind of course of study I am suggesting here would be one important element I think.
 
Well the reason for the notion of white skin being any kind of evidence of superiority is at root because the people who believe in it simply don't have to do any work to believe in it. They were born white so it suits their ego to assume that's a sign of superiority because they were born white.

It's the cheapest form of snobbery there is and the one that involves the least effort to achieve. Simples. It explains why a fat balding white guy who has never achieved anything in his life feels like reaching for an AR-15 should he encounter a black or asian person with a Phd.

He will want to eliminate the disturbing evidence that rocks his fat white balding underachieving world. That's why racism is so attractive to cheap thugs.
 
roc_abilly said:
Some food for thought.

VSO = Verb-Subject-Object sentence order
SVO = Subject-Verb-Object sentence order

Something that struck me this morning is this increasing tendency to focus on "nouns" rather than "verbs", or the doing of things.

You have all these "definitions" of things. And no emphasis on the actual doing of anything.

So say someone goes and reads a wiki about definitions that some people have written down for them about things like ethno-nationalism or race realism... and it seems when they have read these definitions, what happens is their brain alters, changes, as the primary manifestation of having absorbed this information put in front of them.

Then, the doing or the "verb" eventually follows from those definitions, rather than the other way around.

(If there is any doing at all, typically after a considerable period has elapsed, when enough brains are thus altered to reach a critical mass, or a sizable mob is formed. That would seem to be the mechanism to action)

Whereas in old Irish, it was the doing that was at the front. It was the doing of things that created the definitions, and those definitions were far more ethereal and varied, for example we had in the culture created from our language more than 30 different names for a field, 20 different words for a hole, 45 for a stone, 50 words for your penis, more than 4,300 words to describe people’s character etc. And many, many ways to express say the changing qualities of the ocean, light or the wind etc.

But now we just have these lifeless, souless, simplistic lists of stupid words and associated definitions like ethno-nationalism or race-realism, defined on some stupid wiki or somewhere by equally stupid Anglo-Americans, and we have fuck all else, and no appreciation of distinctions, or personal involvement, and these are not things that came from one's own self, or from one's own culture.

There is no doing to create our own reality, rather it is imposed from outside.

Anyway this just struck me while watching some of the scurrying around going on in the online petri dishes.
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🎵 Ohhh Tommy, Tommy.. Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, Tommy Rabbinstein(berg) 🎵

Here's roc's favourite far rightist..

lol How are there even Tommytards? 😂

This was posted on his own YouTube channel* -



*Which he's allowed to have because he isn't a nationalist (other than a Zionist)
 
Poor Mowl, never could figure out why everyone's a far right, white supremacist, neon Nazi to roc.. except for Tommeh 😆
 
"He talk 'bout Tommeh.. He Tommeh fan.."

I mean, that's not even stupid, that's a complete lack of sentience. Mowl scares me at times when it comes to the human intellect, there's just nothing there..
 
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